Subject: Re: combining software under different licenses
From: Mark Wielaard <>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:59:42 +0200

 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:59:42 +0200
Hi Larry,

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 16:54 -0700, Lawrence Rosen wrote:
> John Cowan suggested:
> > Just out of an abundance of wanting to get it right, you should point
> > out that the controversy between FSF and ASF is only about the GPLv2,
> > and both groups agree that Apache-licensed software can be included in
> > works derivative of GPLv3 works.
> But not vice versa, unfortunately, for both GPLv2 and GPLv3, because of
> FSF's desire not to allow linking of GPL software to Apache works without
> deeming the Apache software a derivative work.

I am not sure I am following your reasoning, or I am missing something
subtle. I would assume it is normal that a larger work derived from both
GPL and ASL licensed software (or any combination of compatible OSI
licensed software of course) should come with the grants and obligations
of the combined result. Whether you call the larger work a collection of
interwoven stitched hacks or derived from carefully designed
interactions, both sets of rights come into play when distributing the

The confusion about the GPLv2 vs ASLv2 was that it wasn't clear you
could obey both sets of requirements at the same time, GPLv3 cleared
that up.

I found the following guide by the FSLC a good way to show how to mix
and match free software under different licenses and make it clear what
rights and obligations users have for the various parts that make up the
whole derived work:
That makes it easy to do the diligent recordā€keeping you propose in your