Subject: RE: conducting a sane and efficient GPLv3, LGPLv3 Review
From: "Smith, McCoy" <mccoy.smith@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:34:54 -0700

 Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:34:54 -0700
Someone previously did a pointer to this article, which might be
considered a relevant citation:

http://www.usfca.edu/law/determann/softwarecombinations060403.pdf

It's pretty detailed but seems to at least tangentially discuss the
issue (with lots of case cites). 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Rosen [mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:26 PM
To: 'License Discuss'
Subject: RE: conducting a sane and efficient GPLv3, LGPLv3 Review

> Please cite relevant published opinions and cases, not "conversations
> with many other attorneys."

Quite frankly, I'd rather hear directly from other attorneys on this
list
rather than quote private conversations with LOTS of attorneys going
back
many years. ***Please don't be afraid to speak up.*** The worst that
will
happen is that you'll start another flame war with GPL zealots about how
important it is for the FSF to protect GPL software and the "copyleft
philosophy" from other software regardless of what the copyright law
actually says. :-) 

If you believe that my reading of GPLv3 or copyright law is wrong, why
don't
YOU cite published opinion or case to that effect? You know as well as I
do,
Zak, that the courts have not spoken out about these topics in the open
source context with any clarity. Asking me for case citations at this
stage
is a way to shut off discussion.

/Larry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zak Greant [mailto:zak.greant@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Zak Greant
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:55 PM
> To: lrosen@rosenlaw.com
> Cc: 'License Discuss'
> Subject: Re: conducting a sane and efficient GPLv3, LGPLv3 Review
> 
> Greetings Larry, Aloha All,
> 
> >> Just that the disagreement between Larry and most other people is
of
> >> long standing and unlikely to go away, but has hitherto been of
> >> little
> >> practical effect.
> >
> > Disagreement with "most other people"? Hogwash! As I gather from my
> > conversations with many other attorneys, most other people think
> > FSF and
> > SFLC are wrong on the legal issue of combining GPL software in
> > collective
> > works with other works. I will admit that this disagreement "has
> > been of
> > little practical effect," but this is at least partly because some
> > people on
> > this list and elsewhere make general statements like yours with
> > little basis
> > in law or fact.
> 
> Please cite relevant published opinions and cases, not "conversations
> with many other attorneys."
> 
> Cheers!
> --zak