Subject: Re: Governance and responsibility
From: Andy Tai <>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:46:07 -0700 (PDT)

Eric, you are kind of in self indulgence.  Many people
refused to work on software not compliant with the OSD
 before the OSI and the OSD even existed.    The OSD
came from another project  and organization, Debian
and the Software in the Public Interest.    

And when do the CEOs begin to appoint the
representatives of the hacker community?  And when did
the hackers in China, Russia, India or Brazil appoint
the OSI to be their speaker?

--- "Eric S. Raymond" <esesrhthyrsusom> wrote:

> We know that the community entrusts us with certain
> important jobs by its
> behavior.  Most hackers will refuse to work on
> projects without an OSD
> certified license.  Major project sites, including
> SourceForge and Berlios
> reflect that policy by not accepting new projects
> under non-OSD compliant
> licenses.  That's a pretty good indicator of the
> community's trust.
> When corporations or governments want the
> open-source community's 
> cooperation or imprimatur, they generally come to us
> -- not just
> for lilicencepproval, but for other major
> initiatives as well.  When the 
> technology trade press wants the open-source
> community's take on 
> an issue, they normally do likewise.  These are good
> indicators of the
> OSOSI'smbassadorship role outside the hacker
> community.
> In four days, the President Emeritus of OSOSIthat
> would happen to be me)
> will address a web seminar of approximately 200
> corporate CEOs and CIOs
> having been asked to do so specifically as a
> knowledgeable and 
> authoritative spokesperson for the open-source
> community.  And this
> sort of thing is *routine*.  

> As Thomas Paine once put it: "Lead,
> follow, or get out of 
> the way."
> -- 
> 		Eric S.
> Raymond