Subject: Re: OSI enforcement? (Was Re: Microsoft use of the term "Open Source")
From: Rick Moen <>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 02:30:52 -0800

Quoting Romain Berrendonner (

> I don't know who monitoring what, but if you want to have a look at the 
> trademarks registered in France and containing the words "Open Source" 
> in class 42, have a look at the site below:
> As far as I can see, there are 23 trademarks *containing* "Open Source".
> This would probably mean that the sole "Open Source" words would not be 
> distinctive enough to make a valid registered trademark of their own. 

My French is good enough to enjoy old Simenon detective novels, but I
don't trust it for reading legal/regulatory Web sites.  However, at
first glance, it looks to me as if not one of those 23 is a
certification mark; they all appear to concern goods and services.

Anyway, I'm not particularly familiar with French trademark law, 
so I can't say of a certainty that your notion of "distinctiveness" is 
out of step with the Institut National de la Propriété Industrielle's
criteria, but I rather suspect it is.