Subject: For Approval: HAL, Hermes Attribution License (revisited)
From: "Staff di Filosofiateoretica.it" <info@filosofiateoretica.it>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:44:18 +0100
Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:44:18 +0100
Thank you for your suggests, 


we have a problem with OSL because it seems not to consider totally the 
content of the products developed: our software (and so many others) will be 
distributed with a principal core but the system engine will have a great 
variety of  distribution, depending by their final application (a software 
to create and develop metrical poetry texts is so much different from 
another one able to educate in language learning, and so on…). We don’t want 
to release only the core, because the study of a whole system (including 
some “derivative works”, a kind of “software plugins” ) it’s easier and much 
more organic. In different OSL grants a lot of rights, of course, but for is 
not the best license to protect the intellectual works of certain kind of  
author. In our software (and we think in so many others) we have to grant 
difference kind of rights, especially when we consider the redistribution of 
the product under the same terms of original License. 

For example we have to consider three different kind of “author”:
1-an original one: write his own text and consider only his own work
2-a mediated author: someone who puts an original text (like texts of Plato, 
Nietzsche, McLuhan,…) according with the permission of the terms law
3-a derived author: write a text using a lot of  external source, “mixing” 
his thought with the meaning of  the sentences used
We think OSL is a complete license, but we try to create one more 
specifically. 

We introduce also a “Charging Fees” concept based on moral duty that OSL 
don’t consider (we have revisited our last version of H.A.L. License 
according to the precious suggestions of your mailing-list answer). We don’t 
want money for the core of the system (it’s opensource, of course), but we 
hope to create a “money feedback” when a developer is proudly of original 
licensor software and  want to share a little bit of the contributes 
obtained for the performed work. 

we append the text of the revisited license in this email 

Thank you. 


Hermes_Net Staff 

 

 

 


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From: "Staff di Filosofiateoretica.it" <info@filosofiateoretica.it>
To: license-discuss@opensource.org
Subject: For Approval: HAL, Hermes Attribution License
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:58:25 +0100
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We need a new kind of license different from previously released, similar to 
the GPL open source license but able to protect and to grant directly 
intellectual rights and fees whenever the fees will come from professional 
(we think “commercial”) use of the products bounded with the license.
These are the principal differences between our license and the others just 
approved from OSI: 

Fees:
 - We speak of  “open source” when our intents are to offer everyone the 
possibility to study, to applicate and to upgrade the source code of the 
software (the License refers in this case to Hermes_Net web platform), but 
we want also to grant everyone for the right economical profits whenever an 
application based on the core of the platform will be used for any not-free 
use (we think there are so many ways to use Hermes with money profits, like 
E-Learning, collective research, case studies, “vortal”, and content 
management used in professional structure (portal, newspaper, industries, 
private or public school,…). We don’t want to have control of any kind of 
fees based on modification, personalization or adaptation of the code. In 
this case we want just a feedback of the work developed, to understand and 
offering in open source mode the eventual significative upgrade of the 
product or important related plugin. 

Intellectual right:
 -We want to protect and grant the intellectual right of the author directly. 
Hermes is a powerful software able to create a kind of hypermedia/hypertext 
from a original document. This document belong to its author and could be 
also under copyright license (we speak about classical text for example, or 
about poetry, mathematical issue, newspaper articles and so on…). So, if we 
have an original production which will envolves in a different way creating 
a sub-web-network of collective derived production then we will consider 
these productions as author-based “copyrighted” work too, whose grants are 
the same of the original text. Everytime is used a text that violates the 
intellectual rights of author the responsability is only of the 
administrator (single or team) of the platform. Otherwise whenever a text is 
created and offends anyone, or is immoral, or could be dangerously for its 
content, only the author is to be considered responsible for his own work. 

We think there are no problems with others open source licenses, so the 
software could interacts with other products under the same license or with 
the standard OSI approved licenses. Our license is like GPL except for the 
questions of fees and intellectual grants. Every software could interact 
with our product we have find no limitation since the date of the 
publication. 

Best regards 

Hermes Staff 





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