Subject: Re: Competition by internal expertise for F/OSS vendors
From: Thomas Lord <>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:21:20 -0700

Federico Lucifredi wrote:
> Wow - better not get on Eben's wrong side :-)
> What I find disturbing is not so much the Web side of the discussion 
> (where Tim has a valid point), but the insistence on ignoring the 
> money aspect. If the "enemy" in many's definition has 20+ billion in 
> the bank, monetizing Open Source is a key part of the strategy, and 
> marxist statements about people getting rich are just absurd.

Eben said nothing "marxist".   You misunderstand him:

> A friend comments that Eben likes to take the long view, which is 
> fine, but defining the proprietary software models as gone history 

He does no such thing.

He does argue that there will be a backlash against, e.g., Google
and Facebook.   Things like Facebook will fall quickly out of
fashion (in a 10 year view).   Google's ad-broker business will
collapse when the pricing bubble for ads breaks and when users
begin demanding a curtailment of the creation of a privatized
secret police.   Meanwhile, billions more humans will personally
own and control computers with plenty of speed and storage
to do quite a bit on their own.  That personal-computing-on-the-
edge bit is where he and Stallman see the strategic action.

(I would add only that personal-computing-on-the-server
is also a strategic goal, best addressed by implementing it.)

> So yes, money counts. 

I think you have indeed mightily slain that straw man.