Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 21:59:17 -0800 From: tiemann@CYGNUS.COM I read today that some 30,000 programmers are looking for work on the east coast, after having been laid off by their DoD and DoE employers (either the gov't themselves, or contractors for the gov't). If these guys were properly cooperating and coordinating their efforts, I'm sure they'd all still be funded, but instead they are all duplicating (badly) the work of everybody else, and together they collectively cut themselves out of the market. Can you elaborate on this statement? It sounds oversimplified to me. Do you mean to say that if the defense industry worked together better there would be no defense budget cutbacks? The question is: do you like the free software model enough to let go of the proprietary paradigm? As long as you prefer to discount the fact that hundreds (or thousands) of people at universities and research institutions are doing (or could be doing) "R&D" that directly feeds commercial free software projects, you will have to live with the reality that free R&D is not possible. But what started this thread is the question of how to bootstrap "mass-market" free software. This is precisely the kind of software that universities and research institutions will *not* do because it's not interesting. No university research project is going to write (eg) personal calendar managers that run under Microsoft Windows.