On Jul 12, 9:04am, Gavin Thomas Nicol wrote: >If someone/some organisation >were to produce a rough design for the future Freeware desktop (for >example, just mapping out the major components needed), and then just >had a kind of "project registry", it would be better than the current >situation, and I think people would buy into the "Unified Freeware >System" idea when they start developing. > >I know the FSF has a registry and a task list, but I connot see the >complete FSF system in my mind. All I see is a hodgepodge collection >of stuff from the Internet, not a unified system. > >Anyone have any comments? My company, Yggdrasil Computing Inc., sells a plug-and-play operating system which is comprised entirely of free software. The system is named LGX after its principal components: the Linux kernel, the GNU software suite, and the X window system. The current beta CDROM release has sold 2400+ copies, not including the ~100 complimentary copies. By the way, if your business offers free software services that are relevant to this distribution, you can have your business listed for free in the LGX manual. Also, if you are a Linux hacker looking for work in the SF Bay area, please drop me a line. Yggdrasil is not alone in the free software distribution business. There are two other companies that make competing free operating system distributions, although neither of them appears to have the sort of distribution channels that I've set up with Yggdrasil, at least not yet. In addition, there are companies that make freeware source code distributions on CDROM, adding value with that critical bit of indexing and documentation that makes these encyclopedic distributions navigable. These companies include Prime Time Freeware (408-433-9662), Walnut Creek CDROM (510-674-0783), and InfoMagic (609-683-5501). Having talked about the infrastructure that has developed to organize distributions of free software, let me say that Gavin's remarks are still quite applicable. There is a need for additional organizational resources. These days, I often hear about people posting bug reports to comp.os.linux which nobody picked up, and I often see large numbers of patches flying across different mailing lists, and I wonder if all of those patches will be caught and integrated by the appropriate software maintainers. Jeff Kipmanis's Linux Software Map project, and Jonathan Magid's Linux Address List help to ameliorate these problems a little, but a little more organization yet is still needed. In about a month, I hope to have yggdrasil.com on the net with some sort of tracking system (probably Cygnus's GNATS system with TkGnats) for trouble reports and enhancement requests. I also want to have a copy of the latest Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X source tree that people will be able to check code into. Of course, the funding for support services is more likely to to come as a result of the demand by free software consumers rather than demand by free software producers. Fortunately, from what I can tell, there seems to be considerable demand for support and at least some willingness to pay for it among the LGX beta testers. Adam J. Richter Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated