Subject: Re: Open Source Developer (Economics)
From: "Karsten M. Self" <>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:57:05 +0000

on Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 06:04:36AM +0000, Karsten M. Self ( wrote:
> on Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:11:05PM -0500, Robin 'Roblimo' Miller (
> > >
> > >
> > >The discussion I wish to initiate is based on various published
> > >reports that indicate the lack of OSS with respect to "business
> > >critical" or "Mission Critical" software that can effectively compete
> > >with SAP, ORACLE finance, ORACLE HR, SIEBEL,  to name a few examples.
> > Actually, the seeds of such software exist in the form of VistA, the set 
> > of hospital and clinical management software tools a small group of IT 
> > people inside the Veterans Administration started developing way back in 
> > the 1970s, based on a system whose development started at Massachusetts 
> > General Hospital in the 1960s, that now runs all 170 VA hospitals and 
> > quite a few others in Europe. See to learn more.
> Interesting.
> A number of notable proprietary software products have their roots in
> research or government projects.  A tool I use (SAS) traces to both --
> it was a tool developed at University of North Carolina, and was
> initially deployed by the USDA.  In the field of healthcare, there is a
> company called PHAMIS, based out of Seattle last I checked, whose
> origins and name come from the (IIRC) Public Health Administration
> Management Information System.  

Looks like PHAMIS merged with IDX in 1997:


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