Subject: RE: "I've got more programmers than you"
From: "Jim McLaughlin" <>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:27:08 -0400

For comparisons between DB functionality try this URL:

MySQL doesn't support transactions and therefore wouldn't fly for many
"bullet proof" requirement specs.

For benchmark sake have a look at:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Lance Taylor []
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:51 PM
> To: Free Software Business
> Subject: Re: "I've got more programmers than you"
> Peter Wayner <> writes:
> > I've spoken to the people who make MySQL and they're quite upfront
> > about the strengths and weaknesses of the tool. One explained it with
> > a metaphors about cars, trucks, SUVs etc. Corvettes and Unimogs have
> > different market niches. One is not better than the other.
> >   The same is true about databases. The good news for MySQL and
> > Postgres is that there's a large niche for them. Many websites need a
> > fast, basic database.
> I believe that part of the reason this discussion keeps on going and
> going and going is that there is a terminology problem.  People mean
> different things by the words ``database'' and ``RDBMS.''
> Some people think a database is, essentially, SQL access to a reliable
> data store with ACID semantics.  That is a useful and powerful tool
> for many applications.  (At one time MySQL called themselves a
> database even though they did not provide ACID semantics, but
> fortunately they no longer commit that semantic error.)
> Other people think a database is something rather more powerful: a
> tool which has the ability to support and enforce guarantees about a
> data model.  In an RDBMS this is normally done through mechanisms such
> as triggers, foreign keys, stored procedures, and access control.  As
> far as I know, MySQL does not provide these mechanisms, at least not
> in full generality.
> Another thing which modern databases like Oracle and DB/2 have is
> support for distributed transactions, through features such as
> mirroring, multi-master synchronous replication, two phase commit, and
> asynchronous replication under various user-defined constraints.
> PostgreSQL has very limited support for this.  I don't know MySQL
> provides here.
> Ian