Subject: Re: Communities as the new IPR?
From: mikko puhakka <>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:16:27 +0200 (EET)

 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:16:27 +0200 (EET)
Here's a link to a recent presentation how Nokia'sees 770 and Maemo evolving...
Halla Maemo 11nov05.pdf

you can also find some other interesting presentations there, e.g. IBM's



Jim Thompson kirjoitti 22.11.2005 kello 09:54:
> Russell Nelson wrote:
> >susan wu writes:
> > > A singular community can't be stolen.
> >
> >A community can be caused to move by giving them a better home.  HP
> >(idiots!) killed off "their" community by closing the
> >entity around which the community had grown (CRL).  Some stalwarts are
> >trying to keep it alive through donations, but that will be hard.
> >  
> >
> HP bleeds cash like a slaughtered calf bleeds blood. was 
> really more of a Compaq
> thang, and the CRL wasn't doing anything that was turning into 
> product.   Should HP management have kept CRL open?  Why?
> It looks like has found a home at both MIT's AI lab (but 
> Oh Dear!  They do "Cathedral" style programming there, now don't they?) 
> and Oregon State.
> >Nokia is (whether they realize it or not) giving that community a
> >better home with their Maemo software and 770 hardware.  They're not
> >doing a very good job of it, though; a fair bit of the code is
> >closed-source (DOH!)
> >  
> >
> What prevents a set of motivated individuals from replacing the "closed 
> source" bits of the 770?
> (I admit, I haven't looked very hard.  A friend has promised me his 
> review unit as soon as he gets back to his desk.)
> Could it be that the 770 hardware is better than the iPaq hardware (I 
> have 3 iPacs running linux, and its
> just a wee bit boring.)   I also have an original-model Zarus that is 
> gathering dust outside (and stuff rusts here quickly.)
> >Sharp had some very nice handheld hardware, but loaded it with
> >Cathedral-style software and didn't understand the need for a
> >community of developers.  They made a few feeble motions in the
> >direction of a community, but they didn't know how to sell their
> >hardware and eventually gave up.
> >  
> >
> Oooh "Cathedral-style software".   I seem to remember a flurry of 
> alternative distros for the Zarrus, some of them pure GPL. The Zarrus  
> hardware (at least the first model) sucked, a lot, perhaps this was the 
> reason for its demise?
> Whats with this attack on the GPL by the folks at OSI, anyway?
> Jim

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