Subject: Re: the walls have ears
From: Ben Laurie <>
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:04:28 +0100

Richard Stallman wrote:
> X11 is another example; in its heydey, I am pretty sure that most
> users were using non-free versions.  Apache is also an example.

An example of what? Yes, it has a BSD licence, but your point is?

> Non-copyleft license don't directly take away anyone's freedom, but
> they reduce the community's commitment to freedom, by encouraging
> business to tempt all of us each day to give up some freedom for some
> added convenience.  To resist the temptation takes strong will, which
> not everyone has.  I think it is a mistaken strategy.

Businesses that wouldn't use Apache under GPL will under BSD. They then
discover that being free is more convenient (i.e. cheaper) than not
being free. So, we get where we all want to be. That's the theory,



> For more explanation about this issue, see
> and


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