Thomas Lord writes: > All that time we spent and spend talking about Open Source is time > we've been IGNORING freedom itself as the main issue. What you (and many others) have completely missed over these past ten years is that Open Source has never been about the Open Source Definition and the licenses that comply with it. Free Software has never been about freedom. Open Source and Free Software live and die by their COMMUNITIES. Anybody who thinks they can fail to distribute the code they use is cutting off the branch they're sitting on. To the extent that propretary web services [Web 2.0(tm)] do that is the extent to which they punish themselves for their success. > That is by design, of course. That is the form and function > of the original intent when inventing "open source" -- to > make a rhetoric palatable to business and polarized away > from RMS. Because RMS didn't/doesn't know how to sell freedom to people who didn't IMMEDIATELY grokk it. Since, at the time, RMS owned the word freedom (and you continue to try to make it his proprietary term), it was impossible to talk about freedom without invoking RMS's failure to break out of the developer track/trap. > Rather, what we face is what Eben calls a "conflict of rights": Rights never conflict. If you think they do, they're not rights. They're grants. Example: the right to free association. Yours doesn't conflict with mine. Counter-example: the right to education. Conflicts with the teacher's right to free association (aka they can't permanently remove a misbehaving child from their classroom). -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | Software that needs Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | documentation is software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | that needs repair. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog |