Wed, 9 May 2001 09:57:11 -0400 The thread begun by Adam Theo represented both an opportunity and a challenge to this group. One that so far has been squandered, yet may still be redeemed. Specifically, a developer has come to us with a product and a question on semi-proprietary licensing. Rather than use this as an opportunity to brain-storm and develop a viable means for this person(and the community at large) to see a return on their investment(development time) we have squandered it shouting what amounts to opinions, rather than arguments, that closed source is bad. Here are the challenges: 1. To brainstorm for solutions to allow developers to be compensated for their development work. 2. To convince Mr. Theo that the among those solutions exists a business plan which provides an expected return on investment at least equal to his proprietary license model. Along those lines, I shall begin with a discussion of the Red Hat model. Red Hat is essentially a support provider. You pay Red Hat a fee and they help you set-up your Linux system. Unfortunately, there are several problems with the Red Hat solution: 1. The software it is supporting already had strong grass-roots momentum, and a non-trivial userbase when Red Hat began. 2. I am unsure of the return Linus Torvalds has seen from open-sourcing Linux, but it does not seem to be on the scale of Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, or Scott McNealy. Granted, pure monetary success is not neccessarily the only metric, however, most developers(and people in general) want to see a return beyond the feel good of altruism for their efforts. 3. As a developer, what I am good at is developing software, not providing support. Which brings me to a more focused question than my earlier challenges: How does a developer that wants to invest his time developing, get compensated in the open source arena? I will add two constraints to this question: 1. The income level must be comparable to other opportunities in the market place. 2. The individual does not need to be a world renowned expert on the topic/software. Dave Blankley Introducing iWon Cash Points...now everyone's a winner on iWon.com. Visit http://www.iwon.com now and start earning iWon Cash Points today!