Subject: Re: Lack of imagination?
From: Seth David Schoen <>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 03:33:45 -0700

Jean Camp writes:

> At 9:59 pm -0700 7/2/01, Seth David Schoen wrote:
> >
> >[...] you get something like _Rethinking Public Key
> >Infrastructures and Digital Certificates: Building in Privacy_ by Stefan
> >Brands, and it describes new technologies that solve problems that
> >weren't solved before.  And anybody can implement the cryptographic
> >protocols in that book.  Can you call that open source innovation?  I
> >haven't seen a single project, free or proprietary, that's gotten
> >around to making a usable implementation of that work.
> Of course you know Stefan is the chief architect at Zero Knowledge 
> and is currently involved in trying to make it work, in a business 
> sense as well as a technical sense.

I haven't heard of a ZKS product that uses the material documented
in that book.  I do know that he works there.

Seth David Schoen <>  | And do not say, I will study when I
Temp.  | have leisure; for perhaps you will
down:   (CAF)  | not have leisure.  -- Pirke Avot 2:5