Subject: Re: ok, FSBs created schwag; now bet the farm on something better
From: Mark Eichin <>
Date: 21 Sep 2001 11:58:56 -0400

> know if he gets any money from them. It's hard to pin down, but it 

He has office space, though that may be going away (MIT is moving out
of that building over the next few years.)  More usefully he has a
"patron" of sorts.

> like American universities. But Europe is different. Finland probably 
> paid the tuition, but I don't think it was paying him a stipend.  So 

Do check, but recall that it is a socialist country: health insurance
was not a concern either...  in general a student is far more
supported than they would be in the US.

> credit to his parents? If a Microsoft worker writes open source code 
> at night, does that mean that MS is supporting open source?

More likely means the employee is violating his employee agreement :-(

> examples, it's just that there's no one from the university community 
> on the forefront of the open source movement. It's kind of odd.

I suppose it depends on what space you look at; my primary exposure is
to infrastructure tools, so I see Athena (incl. kerberos) at MIT,
OpenAFS at CMU, Heimdall/Arla at KTH, Cyrus (CMU again), etc.
Perhaps that's because they're more focussed on solving technical
problems [which they have because they're large universities] than
movements :-)

And I can't forget Prof. Felton at Princeton (deCSS) or Dr. Touretsky
at CMU; that entire issue is very much tied to academic Free software...