Subject: Re: Paying for development on a services model?
From: Ian Lance Taylor <>
Date: 09 Oct 2001 22:02:55 -0700

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <> writes:

> And AFAIK Code Fusion was _never_ freed by Cygnus.  Doesn't that tell
> you something about where Cygnus thought their model of FSB was
> applicable?

I've somewhat lost track of the various Cygnus GUI projects (working
on one of them was one of my more horrific engineering experiences--I
think that one was shipped to only one customer).  But as I recall,
Code Fusion was essentially a packaging of Source Navigator, gcc, and
Insight (a gdb GUI).  Source Navigator and Insight were initially
proprietary, but both have been freed up and are available at

In general, Cygnus started entirely free, and then came to a point
where a few projects were made proprietary.  My understanding is that
Red Hat freed everything up after the purchase.