Subject: Re: crux of the essence
From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:40:53 +0900

>>>>> "tony" == tony stanco <> writes:

    tony> Intellectual activities are important enough and different
    tony> enough that I would expect huge changes for the world over

Huge changes, yes.

    tony> the next hundred years. I wouldn't expect commercial
    tony> production around the world to be organized through the
    tony> ridiculously anti-democratic, de-humanizing,
    tony> people-as-replaceable-parts, corporate structure.

It is not that easy.

Tony, last I checked there were _six billion_ people in the world.
Every single one is unique, and has something valuable to offer each
of the others.  Your expected lifetime is 75*365.25*24*60*60 =
2.36682e+09 seconds.  That means you have to democratically humanely
with-respect-for-uniqueness non-corporately relate to 3 people per
second, and you've already wasted a couple of decades, and you'll
waste a couple more sleeping before you retire from this life.  I
think this reductio is complete.  (A related Ecotopian digression:

If you want "around-the-world commercial production," corporatism is
unavoidable.  And that includes the de-personalizing aspects of
corporatism.  We can maybe work on the anti-democratic and
de-humanizing parts.

Not to mention that socialists and communists (in the broader-than-
merely-economic sense), despite their philosophical roots in the
still-uncontradicted Marxian analysis of alienation, have had a pretty
dismal record of alienating their own peoples.  And being awfully
corporatist, to boot.

Impersonal corporatism _is_ the foreseeable future.  Our job is not to
prevent or dismantle it, but to humanize it.

ObFSBCharter: Free software, and free software business, by providing
a workable example of ethically-based business, is one way of doing
our part of that job.

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