Subject: Re: improving project maintainership
From: Russell Nelson <>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:55:16 -0500 (EST)

Zimran Ahmed writes:
 > I don't see the need for this antagonism.

I don't either.  I have repeatedly requested of RMS that he stop
saying that the Open Source Initiative is any less interested in
freedom than RMS or his organization.  Obviously, he refuses to
cooperate, and that's sad.

 > > I mean to make the point that you are not opposed, in principle,
 > > to using non-free software when it advances the goals of the free
 > > software movement.
 > No--he *is* opposed to violating any of the four
 > freedoms on principle alone.

<shrug>.  Then why didn't he start the GNU project on bare metal?
Obviously because he decided it would advance the goals of the free
software movement to use non-free software.  He compromised his
principles once; he can do it again if he has sufficient reason.

 > There are people who claim to be free software movement who are,
 > infact, really part of open source movement.  RMS will argue it's
 > because the four freedoms should be inalienable, a point that open
 > source disagrees on.

I'm not sure you can reconcile the concepts of "freedom" and
"inalienable", but that's just me.

In this venue, I really don't care which community someone considers
themselves to be a member of.  What matters to me is: are they willing
to buy my products and/or services.  If not, then they're not a member
of the most important community of all: my customers.

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