Subject: Re: Successful FSBs
From: Rich Bodo <>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:03:44 -0800 (PST)

That's true.  It's not right to say all free software is source
available.  All free software is open source, though.  BTW, I call the
software that we write for a customer "custom software".  By that I
just mean software that is custom made for a customer, although it's
almost always proprietary as well since the customer has the copyright
and cannot usually be convinced to share it.  I have had to resist
saying "I told you so" a few times to customers who would have
benefited greatly from sharing their custom software.  Sometimes it
becomes impossible to merge a forked branch back in, other times they
just lose personell or data and if they didn't share,


Rich Bodo | | 650-964-4678

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

> >>>>> "Rich" == Rich Bodo <> writes:
>     Rich> I use "source available" to describe source code that is
>     Rich> freely available,
> Much "free software" is not "source available" in that sense.  Until
> about a year ago, for example, GNU Emacs betas were not "source
> available" in that sense, although if you could get your hands on it,
> it was covered by GPL.  More seriously, the "ASP loophole" is being
> proposed regularly as a way to claim freedom while not distributing
> your source.  Then there are the cases where The Kompany (maybe Cygnus
> too?) have sold enhancements to GPL programs, but the customer wanted
> to maintain their own monopoly position so the enhancements never
> became available to the general public.
> Also, although I agree with your definition, until you trademark the
> phrase :-) Microsoft can say "if you've got the bucks, you can have
> the source; we're 'source available' too."  "Published source" is a
> little more definitive, although awkward.
> --
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