Subject: Re: [coallesced replies] Re: how to create 21,780 new free software jobs (2,530 in R&D)
From: Tom Lord <>
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:54:23 -0800 (PST)

I don't believe you.  In other words, could you be more specific so
that we can compare and contrast the critical details, as well as
learn from past experience.

Often, it seems to this amateur, winning ideas go through several
iterations of being tried out through losing implementations.  That
something similar to the plan has been tried in the past is not the
final word on the subject.


   From: "Brian J. Fox" <>
   Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:28:40 -0800
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      Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:45:39 -0800 (PST)
      From: Tom Lord <>

      Absolutely: control over the harware platform is critical.  Computers
      need to be more like phones: cheap and swappable and relentlessly
      standardized in this area.  Is it a rental model we want?  A shelf of
      endorsed hw at CompUSA?  a page at Dell's web site?

   Of course, this model was in fact the rage of 1999.  Network
   "appliances" which were cheap or free, but were service-locked to an
   ISP, and could have their software updated at any time by that service

   It failed, mostly because people didn't want to be service-locked.

   More people use Apache than Word, and it does them more good.
     Kragen Sitaker, Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:32:18 -0800