Subject: Re: Thoughts on free trade and white collar workers
From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <>
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:13:37 +0900

>>>>> "sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull <> writes:

    sjt> The rest of this is also available at
    sjt> because it is not really FSB-related.

But it occurs to me that this correction is FSB-related:

    Ben> specialization and then trading for what you need makes both
    Ben> better off. This idea is the foundation of capitalism

    sjt> This is inexact.  Capitalism is not about trade in general.
    sjt> It is about trade in the means of production,

More precisely, trade in _rental_ of the means of production.  Trade
which involves workers buying their own toolkits is not related to

    sjt> ie, separating the ownership of tools from the use of tools.

In fact, in a very real sense free software is both anti-capitalistic
and anti-socialistic because it takes access to tools out of the realms
of both market trade and government regulation.

Of course this is much more threatening to capitalists and to
unionists than to true socialists.

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